Does P/S Addiction prevent spirituality?

[Charly22]

Tryin to get different people's thoughts on this one....

do you believe p or s addiction prevented you from being in touch with your own spirit?

Did the shame make you avoid "god"??

[FoolishMind]

Very much so!

I think in most religeons, all addictions are considered very selfish, and an improper act.

Since controlling my addiction I have moved a lot closer to god, and i genuinely beleive that has assisted greatly in improving the quality of my life.

Prior to controlling this addiction I was very much ashamed of myself, and felt it wrong to be close or associated to religeon.

FM

[2frustrated]

Undeniably. I think most theologians would actually define sin as that which separates us from God. So if P is a sin, how can it not separate us from God.

[Please don't allow that to make you feel more guilty, or to feel further from God. You are like a plant that needs sunlight (God). Looking at P puts clouds between you and the sunlight. Some rays still filter through the clouds, but not as much as you'd like. Then, when P is away, the sunlight is back in all its glory. You have nothing to be ashamed of, and the light shines on you brighter than ever.]

[rouby]

Tryin to get different people's thoughts on this one....

do you believe p or s addiction prevented you from being in touch with your own spirit?

Did the shame make you avoid "god"??

I would have to say that the longer we remain in this addiction, the further God seems from us.

One thought that I think is hard for us to grasp is

God does not love us any less after we act out than He does when we have gone years without acting out

I think when we really begin to understand and believe that statement, it changes the way we choose. It nolonger becomes about being "good" enough for God to be closer to us.

Like the saying goes- It was not God who moved, but us.

[Misty-Eyed Matthew]

I was told "God wants our best, & our best is good enough". I still ponder the meaning of this. What does this mean to you?

[RootedinGod]

Hi guys,

I have a different take, I know its me again MR. against the grain lol.

The question was :
Does P/S Addiction prevent spirituality?
The quick answer is, no it does not prevent spirituality.

Spirituality is a continued task that a person does throughout their life, "BASED" on their life interactions depends on how strong their spirituality or faith is.
I seen ppl get divorced or lose a loved one and their spiritually will be shaken, but not prevented or end

The easy way to look at this is a person seeking spirituality has already gained some degree of spirituality by just seeking a better life, starts the process and calms the soul.
PA,SA,MB are all really nasty things that can happen to a person, that said it will never prevent a person from being spiritual.

Spirituality is mind set, not a way of life. PA,MB,SA is a way of life and not a mind set.
This is why we call people Alcoholics, that is their life is a direct reflection of that addiction, However even if he drinks if he attends AA, he is seeking spiritual mind set.

Having PA,MA,SA does not prevent you from being spiritual, religious or prevent you from having a relationship with Christ.
It makes it not as nice as it could be and make it hard to have a relationship, but it does not prevent it.

Good news for those who think their soul is damned for eternity.
Good news, once you start the path you are on the Right track.

Now depending on your religious background we can throw guilt, and judgment. But for me, I know my God loves me unconditional. Character defects and all.
RIG

[Charly22]

Well, my thoughts on this are:

P/S addiction consumes the mind. It keeps the mind loud and noisy and distracted and full of thoughts of p/s.

It consumes you in a way that it becomes your heart's desire.

"For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also"

How can you hear that still small voice.....while being consumed by p/s controlling your mind?

It is possible.....but it is hindered.......

[rouby]

Well, my thoughts on this are:

P/S addiction consumes the mind. It keeps the mind loud and noisy and distracted and full of thoughts of p/s.

It consumes you in a way that it becomes your heart's desire.

"For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also"

How can you hear that still small voice.....while being consumed by p/s controlling your mind?

It is possible.....but it is hindered.......

Charly22,

Wow, thank you so much for your words. You have just described exactly what I have been living for several years, but I never could discern exactly what was happening, and you just put it so beautifully in words.

Thank you so much for this- somehow those words seem freeing to me...

[rosie]

Well, my thoughts on this are:

P/S addiction consumes the mind. It keeps the mind loud and noisy and distracted and full of thoughts of p/s.

It consumes you in a way that it becomes your heart's desire.

"For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also"

How can you hear that still small voice.....while being consumed by p/s controlling your mind?

It is possible.....but it is hindered.......

I think personally that addiction separates you from God. Addiction clouds your values and separates you from your core.

I think you can still be spiritual (in life) while being addictive though. I have moments of addictiveness, but the next day I will be spiritual. I don't think spirituality and addiction can co-exist simultaneously though because addiction (in my opinion) is narcissistic -/of ego, only self-serving, whereas spirituality is about one-ness, the greater whole, and virtues that are not condusive with ego - kindness, compassion, giving, etc - I don't think spirituality can be present where there is ego.

As for religion...addiction seems to tick a few of the deadly sins, so it would be difficult for a religious addict to feel true to their religion while being addictive, I assume?

[Jusdoit]

I feel that P is the one thing that keeps me from a healthy relationship with God. This is the main reason why I want to change...I don't like feeling distance from God and disappointing him.