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Default A shot in the dark - 11-14-2007, 12:51 AM
Well, the other day instead of bookmarking P sites, I bookmarked sites like this. That sure felt like an improvement in itself, so finally I took the plunge and signed up. My Ex, the anniversary of her death is today, so I'm kind of in a reflective mood anyway, was always saying I should get help. I danced around that of course, ignored it, cajoled her-- uh? lied to her moreover. ... So, I'm here. Which is good for me. I guess these things always come down to the addict seeking the trough sort of speak, so ... I'm not sure what I can tell you here. I've seen everything you can see I think online: {Edited: descriptions of types of pornography}. The more dangerous the better. I liked to hack into sites too. But it's not james bond stuff. On the hackdom scale I'm probably 3 or a 4. Probably more of a vulture than an actual hacker. It's hard to say MB was a major factor, though it happened of course. The closest comparison I can make is between P and video poker. Has anyone seen folks, or been one, who sat transfixed, zombie-like in front of those screens. The blinking lights, the endless pathways to newer or hidden things. 10 hours could easily slip away. I've been late to work, blown off relationships with real people, moved events around so I could troll. Needless to say the personal life is somewhat of a desert, and perhaps that's the main issue too. The mirror mirror of my addiction. I can't look at that like a sane individual, so I slip away into the insanity of P. But there are no doubt layers to all this, the desert is one.

For now, I'm content to do this board. Actual meetings are no doubt in my future, but SA meetings I'm weary of. I feel like I should drive to one 50 miles away from where I live and dress up like a rabbi or something, sit in the backrow with sunglasses. ... Writing this it occurs to me that all that kind of smells like shame. Hmmm? Anyway, anyone's suggestions for me growing a pair of sack to get to a meeting would be great. What did it take some of you? What was it like?


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Default 11-14-2007, 12:54 AM
Welcome. I'm sorry to hear about your ex. Coming here, and taking positive actions is a great change.

Check out some of the journals. There are great stories, and people really open themselves up there.

There is support here and elsewhere. I am glad you are here.
   
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Default 11-14-2007, 12:57 AM
Welcome swift,

Sounds like you are trying to do the right thing. It's not easy to admit to yourself you have a problem. This is a graet place for support but you will need more if you are serious about this. You can do it.

good luck,

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Default 11-14-2007, 12:59 AM
Welcome to the board.

I wish you well in your efforts.

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Default 11-14-2007, 01:01 AM
Thanks folks. I have some exploring and reading here to do. I've also set this page as my default homepage.


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Default 11-14-2007, 01:03 AM
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It's not easy to admit to yourself you have a problem. This is a graet place for support but you will need more if you are serious about this. You can do it.

good luck,

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And oh boy do I have a problem. Slipped yesterday, slipped today. But it's a new moment, tomorrow a new day. I just have to take things slowly. Excuses are like a-holes, everyone has them, so I won't harp on recent "kaka". Just have to face it again all next year anyway. Being here helps. Puts things on a front burner.

I was wondering though: about posting. I'm not sure how much detail is a good thing. I'm worried about triggering others, and even myself. I guess that's a pitfall of the board/ group setting, but if someone could comment on that it would be helpful. Thanks.


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Default 11-14-2007, 01:06 AM
In general, any description of a sex act, details of porn used (or of other acting out), or even sometimes mentioning types of extreme P can be triggering. The more vague you are about such things, the better.

After all, it's more helpful to discuss our struggles (both internally and externally) than to wallow in how we act out when we relapse.

Have you started to develop a plan for recovery?

Hang in there, my brother

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Default 11-14-2007, 01:10 AM
Thanks for the info. Yeah, I was wondering how that worked, about the posting. ... As for the plan. Hmmm? Well, it begins with me oddly enough. I think taking this step is the first necessary one. Since 98% of P is directly related to the computer for me, this is the next thing in need of fixing. Now I've tried to quit P before. Software doesn't work, as I can always beat it. I programmed my browser through the parent controls, to only go to about to 80 sites or so. This worked for months until a worm or virus came around and I had to reformat the drives. I'll probably end up doing this again. It's a huge pain in the butt though. I think the last time I did it it took two weeks of entering Urls and their combinations into the "accepted sites" lists. (doing it the other way doesn't work as it can be tricked-- that is entering sites you don't want to go to because there are always new P sites and BBSs) The whole thing is keyed with a 60 digit code. This prevents me from memorizing it, and I email it to a friend who knows about my issues. If there's a major problem with the computer or some site I forgot to add, they can send me the code so I can update the list. They also check-in to make sure I delete it, and they only send it to me after I beg for it. If I'm constantly requesting it, they confront me. This friend is a big help of course. ... Oh, if anyone is thinking about doing this I highly recommend eliminating all search engines. If there's something you need to search go to kinkos, or other public online outlet. Too, make a backup list of the sites you want to include. The Controller's function won't allow you to "select all" and copy and paste, and if something happens you'll be able to rebuild the Controller's "allowed list" in a fraction of the time. Oh, and you'll need to include the http:// i.e. http://www.lightwave part of the Url as well as the Url without it: i.e. www.lightwave, or just lightwave.com. It is possible to include some search functions, but this is very tricky. For instance you might be able to limit it to just getting the results with no linking, or jumping to the sites in question. I can't remember exactly how off the top of my head. I know it had something to do with adding a partial Url from the search engine into the block list-- oh, and you can enter fragments of Urls as well as whole ones (if you listed .jp for instance you would never be able to get into a Japanese site.) ... But to keep it simple, I'd just block the search engines.


Anyway, after that-- well, the bar is closed sort of speak. I'll have to monitor how I react to this new way of doing computing. Watch for the triggers and deal with how I'm feeling instead of acting out. Then after some time of being "sober" I'll say 3 months, I think the next stage will be an actual SA meeting. I know someone deeply involved in the local "scene" with SLA, so I'll touch base there. ... Along the way I'll reconnect with what I consider the spiritual side of the coin, the one I can stomach at least. The closest I can pin-point it is Wayne Dryer's workshops. Too, Bradshaw. Someone else mentioned "Healing the Shame that Binds You" (I'm staring its dusty cover right now, along with a Cyber Addiction book) Too, I just learned Bradshaw has a tapes on SA that can bought. Here's the link to the catalog: http://www.bradshawcassettes.com/catalog.html
I can't testify as to the content or effectiveness as I'm in the process of buying them, but maybe someone else will find them or another tape helpful.

I kind of know where all this heading though, therapy. I hate doctors. Anyway, it's down the road, so I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.

So the short term is putting the reins on the computer. That should keep me busy for a couple of weeks. ... The rest of today looks like smooth sailing. I'll check in later.


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Default 11-15-2007, 11:27 PM
So hows it going on swift? How are things after spends a day with us? do you consider it to be helpful. One suggestion i would like to give you is start of a journal and make it a regular activity if you really want to fight P.


Cheers mate I will be waiting to hear from you

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Default 11-17-2007, 12:44 AM
Hallows,

I can only say that I was fortunate to have found this site , things are changing pretty fast and i can see results in no time, look at this a couple of days ago i was all about P and now i refrain from it..

Great going guyz you have made things much easier for me, I would've slipped and fallen down had i not been here and had i not met you all.


I might start a journal, thanks for the suggestion i think thats gonna be helpful...


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