Dangerous Water

[webeyed]

My attitude is 100% positive to masturbation. Despite my bias why not try working on the quality of your own MB, if only to wean yourself away from P?
One is natural as opposed to the other.
I understand the interest in disciplining oneself, but the PA is BY FAR the more important urge to control. You appear to be depressing yourself by trying to rein in healthy desires as well as unhealthy ones. And you don't seem to be alone on this site, which is a shame, because it's a wondeful place to find thriving.