Anyone who is not against masturbation?

[spalmer69]

Thank you all so much for your replies.
I apologize to the admins and to the rest of you for entering "trigger" words. I guess I didnt read the rules before actually posting on the site. Darn newbies!! :)
I will say that the fetish is *** (is that acceptable? *no*). I just didnt want anyone to think it was something TOO bizarre or wacked out lol I have been doing a lot of reading on it over the past year. Ive not read anywhere that it can be cured or gotten rid of totally but I will say that during the 4-5 month reconcilliation, I kept it strictly between my wife and I. During the separation, I came to appreciate my wife for continuing to be willing to share it with me. I'm not sure it is something that I will ever be able to rid myself of BUT....I am totally prepared to respect my wife and our marriage and keep it totally between us. I dont ever want to hurt her again. I really dont. I know we all feel that way deep down inside. Theres been nothing that has upset me more than the times I have let my wife down and hurt her over these past few years.
Scott

[City Fool]

I'm not well versed in theology however I recall reading in the Bible that God does not enter the bedroom of a man and wife.

Help me out here, Bible scholars.

Man first communicated outside of his tribal circle using crude drawings and signs on cave walls.

Those ancient efforts would evolve past communication and become art.
The art of keeping time only came about as a method to regulate the taking of medication which was tied to specific hours of the day in which to pray.
Whatever we did as a species to survive, evolved as we continued into modern times.
Bear with me.....
S*x departed from it's original purpose thousands of years ago and there is no standard template for how it's viewed by any one person today. What is "normal"? There are things that s*xually are dangerous, illegal or degrading to the average adult. And the borderline is far from being clear cut. If it were, P would be relegated to one or two diversions from the basic need for s*xual contact at all.
This is the shadowy area in which P thrives, grows and expands. It's purpose is to target a persons proclivites and at some point, add more spice to the mix. To boost the, "Fix" level. Just as a junkie needs more smack to maintain.

One word. Communication. At some point, your SO was your closest friend. The person you trusted the most.
To allow our macho ethic, our "guy thing" to come between us and our SO is not only stupid, it's difficult to understand how it could happen at all!
If a normal couple is together for 50 years and all of the time of true s*xual contact is added up, it would average about two years, total. You better know how you're going to spend the other 48 years. Most people don't think that far ahead.

[Daniel]

I will say that the fetish is *** (is that acceptable? *no*). I just didnt want anyone to think it was something TOO bizarre or wacked out lol

Scott,

Let's please keep these types of topics confined to Journals and then make it more general.

All of us could delve one level of detail further in to our stories and create untold issues for all of the PAs. Thus we keep things very non-specific except in a few cases where a point is being made. And in those instances it is done with great amounts of caution.

Since this site is first and foremost a recovery site, exploration of this topic falls outside the bounds of the intent of Through The Flame.

I am sure you understand and thank you ahead of time.

Peace,

Daniel

[spalmer69]

Scott,

Let's please keep these types of topics confined to Journals and then make it more general.

All of us could delve one level of detail further in to our stories and create untold issues for all of the PAs. Thus we keep things very non-specific except in a few cases where a point is being made. And in those instances it is done with great amounts of caution.

Since this site is first and foremost a recovery site, exploration of this topic falls outside the bounds of the intent of Through The Flame.

I am sure you understand and thank you ahead of time.

Peace,

Daniel

I do understand and thank YOU for your patience Daniel. My sincere apologies to everyone.
Scott