Is MB bad???

[God Forgive Me]

DO you guys think that MB is bad. A lot of people say that MB is natural ?? I found out about MB by myself so.................what do you guys think??

[Phil413]

DO you guys think that MB is bad. A lot of people say that MB is natural ?? I found out about MB by myself so.................what do you guys think??

I believe it is unnatural and unhealthy. Worse, for guys like us it feeds the addiction we're trying to starve and keeps it alive. Also, MB is itself addictive, and like all such things, it requires periodic escalation in order to maintain the same level of temporary satisfaction.

And, when we MB, we usually fill our minds with remembered P, or sexual fantasies in order to do it. Then we're just using mental P instead of photographic P. What's the difference?

Phil

[iwilldothis]

I think M can be healthy and natural in someone who leaves a healthy, balance and natural life.

I don't think it can be healthy for P addicts, because it does feed the P habit, and fuels and is fueled by issues of avoidance and self numbing.

In fact, I am not sure if someone who lives a healthy and natural life would spend much time masturbating so in a sense, I think if you are finding it necessary to maturbate, then you are not living a healthy and natural life.

[Amethyst]

I think MB can be part of a healthy male sexual ethic, but for us PA it does cause problems, and for anyone can close us off from healthy relationships with others, especially those we find sexually attractive - So i would affirm MB, but affirm it in a healthy context -

[Jon Doe 109]

I might be in the minority here and I certainly respect those who disagree and who have much more sobriety time and experience in recovery. For me, I don't see MB as the main problem although I'm abstaining from both P and MB right now. I think MB occasionally is fine but in moderation - like once a week perhaps... I believe that when we feel trapped in life and things aren't going well for us we seek the pleasure of MB as and escape (like drinking or drugs) - A good example is the monkey in the zoo - they MB frequently there but in the wild they do it far less... I believe humans are similar and when things are going well for us MB might be a celebration of life - not an escape from it - if we MB for escape we should recognize that something in our lives is not right and work to change that - not escape from it - my 2 cents. Jon

[gnein]

I think MB is okay in moderation but should never be at the expense of being intimate with a partner (if you have one). There is also medical evidence that suggests MB can help reduce the risk of prostate cancer later in life. However, as I said, it should be in moderation and should never take priority over being intimate with your partner.

The thing that I find about MB is that when I get away from P for a while, the urge to MB tends to decrease on it's own anyway, so if I'm not looking at P, I might MB once or twice in a week and probably no more than that. The other thing that makes MB healthier than P (in my opinion) is that when you do it, you're not actually looking at images or videos of women being degraded. In fact, if I MB after a few days without P, I find that I don't even think about the P while I'm doing it.

[TomHaveHadEnough]

I believe it is unnatural and unhealthy. Worse, for guys like us it feeds the addiction we're trying to starve and keeps it alive. Also, MB is itself addictive, and like all such things, it requires periodic escalation in order to maintain the same level of temporary satisfaction.

And, when we MB, we usually fill our minds with remembered P, or sexual fantasies in order to do it. Then we're just using mental P instead of photographic P. What's the difference?

Phil

What do you think about MB in a relationship when for example your wife is away on trip for several days? Maybe you should wait 'til she gets home but would it be wrong to fantasize that your wife was there with you?

I stand neutral in that question, I think. But I'm curious what you and others think :)

[Phil413]

What do you think about MB in a relationship when for example your wife is away on trip for several days? Maybe you should wait 'til she gets home but would it be wrong to fantasize that your wife was there with you?

I stand neutral in that question, I think. But I'm curious what you and others think :)

Hi, Tom. I think it's morally wrong under any circumstances. Our sexuality is an incredibly powerful thing, and it can cause us a lot of harm when we misuse it. It is meant to be shared only with our wives, not with any other person, and not even by ourselves.

Phil

[TomHaveHadEnough]

Hi, Tom. I think it's morally wrong under any circumstances. Our sexuality is an incredibly powerful thing, and it can cause us a lot of harm when we misuse it. It is meant to be shared only with our wives, not with any other person, and not even by ourselves.

Phil

Yeah I sort of moves back and forth when it comes to MB. To be honest I don't appreciate MB without P. And I do think that MB is an egoistic act so what good it brings I don't know.

But for my own sake I have chosed to mainly stay away from P, at least for now. I can't say I have any troubles avoiding MB either but I don't want to cut off all "escape routes" so to speak, in a way I believe that if you compare P and MB then MB is the lesser evil of the two. But in the long run I hope that I will be free of both.

[Zachary]

My own personal opinion is that MB is okay, but not for PA or even recovering PA until they've been recovered for a long, long time. Because P and MB tend to become linked (this is even proven to happen in the brain, by the forming of new pathways), it's hard for them to ever become mutually exclusive again. If you're trying to recover, I'd say abstain completely. It's just for the best. I haven't even tried to since I quit P usage, for fear of what it might trigger.