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      Is anyone really accountable or responsible for the sickness and the destruction caused by pornography?

      Adolescent minds being twisted and distorted about relationships, affection and love. Young men being bombarded with images and ideals that can never be realized-- leaving them dissatisfied and confused. Successful men allowing the pull of the p industry and the media to sidetrack their careers and professional standards. Married men, loving dads, watching their marriages and family life dissolving from the negative impact of using p or from its discovery in a relationship based on trust.

      If it really is an addiction, like nicotine or alcohol, shouldn't there be warning labels on internet p sites or videos, to warn p users that the product...pics or videos...may cause harm to them just like alcohol and other addictive substances... and may also inflict harm to those around the user?

      Placing the blame on a person or a greedy industry for something destructive or harmful won't alleviate the immediate suffering, but it just might call attention to the purveyors of this
      '' problem-illness-addiction-bad habit '' and create some thought and consideration before the problem, instead of an array of bad reactions and results later on.

      The p industry is greedy. True. The abusive level of p has dramatically increased but the industry in its own defense states, that this is the level that users are demanding today. This arguement seems similar to the tobacco industry adding more nicotine to its product and claiming that is what users demand. Didn't they create the demand in the users in the first place ?? Increasing the demand for their product assures steady and strong profits for them.

      What about the paid performers in pornography or the "stars"?

      Are they true victims that are exploited and deserve our sympathy and understanding or are most of these ' pornography stars ' really just money hungry opportunists that feed on the vulnerable?

      Are they not at all accountable for the harm that they knowingly cause in so many individuals and families by their antics and performances?

      For the moment, the only direct target for accountability is the user himself. The PA. Bad boy.

      But just as in the case of the alcoholic, the cigarette smoker, the coke addict... concerned-educated people began to question the tobacco industry and how they target the young: the marketing campaign of the alcohol industry and their common strategy of linking fast cars and fast women to the latest expensive liquor on billboard and superbowl commercials.

      Why can't we make the magazine and movie moguls accountable for what they are peddling?

      Is it bizarre to consider law suits being filed against the supposed pornography stars who are now living off the profits from the products they peddled ?

      Who is accountable?

      Who is a victim ?

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      Quote Originally Posted by maggie View Post
      Is anyone really accountable or responsible for the sickness and the destruction caused by pornography?
      Yes, humanity in general for our sinful ways and our inability to come together, not just as individual Nations, but as a World against immoral things and injustices.


      Quote Originally Posted by maggie View Post
      Adolescent minds being twisted and distorted about relationships, affection and love. Young men being bombarded with images and ideals that can never be realized-- leaving them dissatisfied and confused. Successful men allowing the pull of the p industry and the media to sidetrack their careers and professional standards. Married men, loving dads, watching their marriages and family life dissolving from the negative impact of using p or from its discovery in a relationship based on trust.

      A profound statement right there.




      Quote Originally Posted by maggie View Post
      If it really is an addiction, like nicotine or alcohol, shouldn't there be warning labels on internet p sites or videos, to warn p users that the product...pics or videos...may cause harm to them just like alcohol and other addictive substances... and may also inflict harm to those around the user?
      Absolutely! I agree that there should be warning labels or a disclaimer, but then that would impede our right to free speech.



      Quote Originally Posted by maggie View Post
      Placing the blame on a person or a greedy industry for something destructive or harmful won't alleviate the immediate suffering, but it just might call attention to the purveyors of this
      '' problem-illness-addiction-bad habit '' and create some thought and consideration before the problem, instead of an array of bad reactions and results later on.
      I agree with this statement, but the only way that will happen is if we stand together and fight for it, sign petitions, start an anti-porn movement and really stick to our guns about it. It will take teamwork on a massive level before it would become a large enough movement to go Nationwide and beyond. And until that happens big government will not regulate the internet and impose new laws.




      Quote Originally Posted by maggie View Post
      The p industry is greedy. True. The abusive level of p has dramatically increased but the industry in its own defense states, that this is the level that users are demanding today. This argument seems similar to the tobacco industry adding more nicotine to its product and claiming that is what users demand. Didn't they create the demand in the users in the first place ?? Increasing the demand for their product assures steady and strong profits for them.

      Ok, I see where your going with this, but on the flip side, Tobacco companies manufacture and sell cigarettes, a legal drug called nicotine, that we choose to ingest because it makes us feel good. The Porn industry didn't create the demand, our biological programming and our sinful nature is what created the demand for Porn.




      Quote Originally Posted by maggie View Post
      What about the paid performers in pornography or the "stars"?

      Are they true victims that are exploited and deserve our sympathy and understanding or are most of these ' pornography stars ' really just money hungry opportunists that feed on the vulnerable?

      Are they not at all accountable for the harm that they knowingly cause in so many individuals and families by their antics and performances?

      For the moment, the only direct target for accountability is the user himself. The PA. Bad boy.
      I don't claim to know anyone's heart or intentions, or why they do things, only the Lord knows that. But I think the statistics are 80% of female porn actresses were sexually abused as children. Just something to think about. We live in a sinful world and everyone's actions have repercussions in the lives of others whether we think so or not.


      Quote Originally Posted by maggie View Post
      But just as in the case of the alcoholic, the cigarette smoker, the coke addict... concerned-educated people began to question the tobacco industry and how they target the young: the marketing campaign of the alcohol industry and their common strategy of linking fast cars and fast women to the latest expensive liquor on billboard and superbowl commercials.

      Again, our human nature at it's finest.



      Quote Originally Posted by maggie View Post
      Why can't we make the magazine and movie moguls accountable for what they are peddling?

      Is it bizarre to consider law suits being filed against the supposed pornography stars who are now living off the profits from the products they peddled ?
      Freedom of speech prevents us from telling them what they can or cant say or print or make into a movie, we still have to make the choice to look at it, whether it's free or we pay for it.


      Quote Originally Posted by maggie View Post
      Who is accountable?

      Who is a victim ?

      That's the million dollar question, honestly, only G-d knows.


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      Maggie,

      What you've said is profound. I don't have much else to say except that I wholeheartedly agree, and deeply appreciate your well-reasoned and articulate argument.

      How about we start to move on this. Are there any congresspeople who are already actively fighting against p?

      Actually, I just did a quick search on govtrack.org for recent related legislation, and nothing significant came up. I will investigate further to see of anyone in congress has a place in their heart for this issue (as most of them will claim they're "too busy" to deal with it).

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      Wow Maggie!
      What an excellent post! You are so very right about this industry and the harm it causes. It would seem to me that lawsuits would certainly be following this epidemic that is being created. It only makes sense. However, perhaps the secrecy that surrounds this addiction will slow that down. I do believe it is only a matter of time though, don't you?
      Such a terrible waste of human spirit!
      When you see the devastation that is being experienced across the world today, it makes it even more unbelievable that this is what our society is dealing with.
      Thank you for this post Maggie!
      So very well said!
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      Among the victims, addicts that can't stop using, family and friends who watch a loved one destroy themselves with an addiction, I count the 'performers' paramount amongst the victims. The truth of the matter is that 99.9% of people that appear in P are there against their will, do not know that they are being filmed, are feeding addictions of their own, have no other socio-economic chance at feeding their families or more often than not a combination of one or more of these factors. This is the most guarded secret of the industry. They want to make you believe that it's all okay, all in good fun. The producers and distributors are the ones that need to held accountable, as well as the traffickers supplying them with the majority of their 'personnel'. The truth, the real truth is that no gets rich performing, only death and addiction await. The production companies need to be held accountable and the public needs to be much more educated. I strongly believe that if more men knew the harm that P usage caused other people, if they knew they were destroying lives and families, effectively killing other human beings by consuming P, I do believe that demand would drop drastically. But your congressmen, your senators, your predominately male government, who's to say that they themselves don't use? It's an uphill battle, but it's one that needs to be fought, constantly. Every PA owes it to the world to fight back, get educated and stand strong against P. Every SO who's ever been hurt by a PA should also educate themselves to the reality of the industry, see who the monsters are, and who's just getting caught in the crossfire. The more people that know, the more we can organize and make our voices heard! No P in our homes, our communities, our societies, OUR WORLD!

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      JenMac,
      I love the quote "such a terrible waste of human spirit", thats exactly what it is. Well said.

      Maggie,
      So true. This industry is killing the human spirit! I would support any movement we do on this level. This is a cause I would love to fight for on a large scale, only because it effect our society on such a large scale!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Zachary View Post
      Among the victims, addicts that can't stop using, family and friends who watch a loved one destroy themselves with an addiction, I count the 'performers' paramount amongst the victims. The truth of the matter is that 99.9% of people that appear in P are there against their will, do not know that they are being filmed, are feeding addictions of their own, have no other socio-economic chance at feeding their families or more often than not a combination of one or more of these factors. This is the most guarded secret of the industry. They want to make you believe that it's all okay, all in good fun. The producers and distributors are the ones that need to held accountable, as well as the traffickers supplying them with the majority of their 'personnel'. The truth, the real truth is that no gets rich performing, only death and addiction await. The production companies need to be held accountable and the public needs to be much more educated. I strongly believe that if more men knew the harm that P usage caused other people, if they knew they were destroying lives and families, effectively killing other human beings by consuming P, I do believe that demand would drop drastically. But your congressmen, your senators, your predominately male government, who's to say that they themselves don't use? It's an uphill battle, but it's one that needs to be fought, constantly. Every PA owes it to the world to fight back, get educated and stand strong against P. Every SO who's ever been hurt by a PA should also educate themselves to the reality of the industry, see who the monsters are, and who's just getting caught in the crossfire. The more people that know, the more we can organize and make our voices heard! No P in our homes, our communities, our societies, OUR WORLD!
      I would have to agree. With a Predominately male Government, and a past President that was CAUGHT on duty indulging in his own SA... Where are we trying to go with that?? Honestly, our best chance would probably be while Hilary Clinton is still in office... Granted she's the Secretary of State and deals mainly in Foreign affairs, but I'm sure she's got to have a personally vested interest in this subject..... Not trying to start a political debate by any means. I wholeheartedly agree that if we can get some legislative movement and government involvelment to STOP or drastically hinder the growth of the P industry, I'll be right there with you.
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