How Google (and other search engines) could help p addicts

[Yalpiri]

Hello folks! I was visiting the thread "How Did You Discover TTF", where something member ToddR said, made me think about a very important measure that Google should implement in order to help the p users out there. I thought I could start up a thread here as well, so that others also could hear about my idea:

Here's what ToddR said:

I "Google'd" "pornography forum" and your forum essentially topped the results. The purpose of my search was to re-ignite an ongoing sickness and instead the hand of fate firmly directed me to a potential cure.

And I replied:

(...) Your story there made me think of something. You know those (sometimes annoying) adverts to various sites, which seems to be related to the topic you are searching for? Like when I'm googling "skiing", I might see adverts for sites selling ski equipment, or for various ski resorts, and stuff like that.

Well wouldn't it be great if Google (and all the other search engines) implemented this:
If someone are searching for [insert any random pornographic term here], then on the resulting page, there would appear a noticeable advert/text, with a message like:

"Are porn consuming much of your time? Have you ever considered that it's a big issue and a problem for you? Do you want to stop? Then you should know that there's help to get, check the sites Throughtheflame, No-porn and/or RecoveryNation. You will heavily benefit from it, and you can get your true life back! Good luck!"

I think a measure like this should indeed be doable and the the search engines should really consider to make this happen ASAP! I can just imagine all the p industry's victims sitting out there, right now as we speak, completely indulged in their life harming behaviour, and in fact are really in the need for help. But sadly they still haven't made the decision to start looking for it.

Google should be contacted and this suggestion should be put on their table, as a measure like this is desperately needed!

What do you think folks?

[2frustrated]

A WONDERFUL idea. How can we go about implementing it?

(P industry will throw a fit, but too bad!)

[Yalpiri]

yes of course any producer of any drug want to keep their users for as long as possible in their chains, being slaves to their substance. The industry have sadly been on the victorious side way too long now.

It's about time society awakens to the realities and start the fight against an industry that's taking advantage on the darker side of humankind, growing on our misery while tearing down our health and well being!

A measure like this would be a very good start! On a second thought, I don't think it should appear as an advert at all, but rather a noticeable warning message.

You know... it's a bit like how the health governments introduced the law that all tobacco products now have to be labeled with those health warning messages!

[RichBlack]

As much as I agree with you guys (which I do), I just have a gut feeling that the answer would be a huge, resounding no. Porn is just one more area with which Google can increase usage numbers. Google, of course, offers safesearch locking, etc., so that parents will use it, but I think they offer tools like this with a grain of salt, knowing that for every parent or responsible individual wanting to block such material there are many more who make use of it. I hate to be the cynic or skeptic. Maybe I am wrong. I think we just need to do it ourselves.

Rich

[RichBlack]

Just to clarify the above, I believe Google would do whatever was in the greatest interest of users. I am not saying Google is a bad company, but they are interested in making money. If a large number of users want to use porn, Google isn't going to block the way.

Rich

[blindside]

I don't think Yalpiri is suggesting that we somehow get Google to block P. That will not happen not only for financial reasons but it would run counter to the Google's ideology to uphold freedom of expression.

Now here's an idea which will sound crazy at first but in my opinion just might work. When a user goes to a search engine and types a keyword, the engine looks for the keyword in the "tags" associated with all the websites it parses through. That is why often when we search for certain things highly irrelevant websites with bogus or even dangerous content will sometimes top the list. I propose that the TTF moderators and those who originated the site include the whole darn dictionary of porn terms in the search tags to the forum. And I mean everything. It doesn't have to be in a salacious manner. All they have to do is include somewhere a line that reads:

Looking for [insert full list of porn fetishes]? Perhaps you should ask yourself if you have an addiction.

That way TTF would turn up in the search results of an ordinary porn user's list of results. And who knows. With this person staring at the above question they may just have an "ah-ha" moment..

My tech savvy is not advanced enough for me to suggest actual technical ways to do this. But I am sure there are enough guys on here with this background that if we started throwing some ideas around this could lead to something. Just my two cents. : )

[Yalpiri]

RichBlack, I have to say I disagree with you. In my opinion how the p situation is now, it could be compared to a situation where minors had freely access to cigarettes, and even stronger drugs, in the shops today. It's not without reason the governments now have introduced stricter laws regarding nicotine products! In many countries today the stores needs to have nicotine products locked away inside safety boxes, and in order to buy a package of cigarettes you'll need to pick up a bar code not from the cashier first. And it's not without reason that tobacco products now need to be labeled with warning messages like, smoking seriously damages your health, and could cause lung cancer!

Think about all the resources used today in order to get people quit their smoking. Think about the cost of all those resources. I'm sure there was a lot of complaining angry salesmen out there, who knew all these new stricter laws would seriously affect their sales and profits. After all they are interested in earning their money!

But today.... It does look like that the stores have accepted the new laws, and the majority of society have indeed accepted the changes over the last years considering the distribution and sales of nicotine products. Yes, the whole tobacco situation is completely different today, than how it was 20, or even 10 years ago! And when you are walking around in town today, everything just feels so much cleaner, and fresher! Isn't it great to be able to join your friends for a beer on your local pub, and it's actually possible to breath completely normally, without the need of feeling you are choked "green faced" because of smoke filled air? I guess mostly all agree that today's situation is so much better and cleaner! Don't we want a better and cleaner experience when we are surfing the web as well?

If a large number of users want to use porn, Google isn't going to block the way.

That large group there are probably and most certainly a group of addict p users. So you think it's right that Google just should let this thing happen? As I mentioned, I can just imagine all the web surfers right now as we speak, are sitting online maybe with the intention of getting some work done, but then the urge hit them, and they find themselves indulged in their p addiction instead, wasting hours of their time! They can't control their use (as we all know so good), and are seriously in the need of help. Isn't it much better then, that they get to their help as quick as possible? Many p users are probably not even still aware that their p use is a problem for them, but with a warning message like this, it might very well help them on more sensible thinking. The p industry want their users to stay in their brainwashed fog for as long as possible, because the industry perfectly well know that the p users have HUGE problems in controlling their use. And brainwashed users, manipulated by the p fog, yep that means $ to the pornographer's (drug maker's) wallets and bank accounts.

Google seriously needs to consider their responsibility and their role in how to make internet more clean and healthier than what it currently is! IMHO, I think p use is a much bigger issue and societal problem than what nicotine use ever was!

Seriously...! Even words that's not even meant to be pornographic by nature, have today become pornographic thanks the power of the p industry. It's a well known fact for instance that "sex" is more or less equal to hardcore porn on the net today. But it doesn't stop there. Do a google search (with safe search turned off that is) on the words "girls" or "teens", and you'll more than likely end up having hardcore p just a couple of clicks away! Girls and teens have become equal with hardcore p for crying out loud! Two words which have the meaning of "young female human beings" and "adolescent human beings", have thanks to the p industry and the internet, today become a term many people actually uses in order to find degrading hardcore porn! There's something here that's just completely and totally wrong, it's actually amazing that society have accepted this more or less ignorantly the past decades!

I repeat what I said in a previous post: The industry have sadly been on the victorious side way too long now. It's about time society awakens to the realities and start the fight against an industry that's taking advantage on the darker side of humankind, growing on our misery while tearing down our health and well being! Way too long now!

And of course a measure like a warning message on google, should just be one small, out of many other things that have to be done. The whole distribution of p needs to be heavily regulated, (some p material shouldn't even be legal to produce in the first place!) The .xxx domain would probably be a very good idea, and then our governments should introduce a non tolerance-policy, of p sites that tries to get around that domain. Then resources on how to filter away p content effectively on ISP level, without unwanted side effects should be implemented. The whole internet are in a serious need of a larger porn clean up! The capitalistic free marked (with the help of that oh so popular and highly acclaimed Freedom of Speech), have created a seriously and huge societal problem, and indeed it seems to just grow and grow in terms of scale and impact! Now it's time our society do our job, and get this mess cleaned up!

All in here, and all who have been trapped by the chains of this dreadful addiction knows perfectly well which kind of manipulative tricks the p industry uses to trick the people into their drug! And as more and more awakens to the realities, more and more want to fight back against it, getting the justice we in fact deserves. Because we are interested in a clean and healthy society and life, right? Based in well being and inner peace, right? And that's the complete oposite of what the p industry teaches us, right? And that also goes for our digital life online, right?

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